Are ALL the removal entries needed? Since certain monk skills remove any conditions (I know Draw Conditions, Mend Condition, Purge Conditions and Restore Condition do, not sure about some that are listed under every condition) should they be listed at the top instead? - LordBiro 07:55, 21 May 2005 (EST)
Wow, no one replied :D Anyway...
"A single character can only be affected by a single instance of a condition at a time, though a second copy being imposed will reset the duration."
Just an Enchantments can stack if they are cast by different people, can Conditions as well? Like, if I cast poison on someone their health might regenerate at -4 for 10 seconds. Then I cast it again, the health still regenerates at -4, but the 10 seconds is reset. Then my ally casts poison, does the foe still suffer -4 health regeneration with the time reset, or does he suffer -4 regeneration on top of the -4 I cast? LordBiro/Talk 22:23, 13 Jun 2005 (EST)
DP, morale, and knockdown aren't conditions in the way the game uses the term. I don't think they should be in this article. If no one disagrees, I'll move them elsewhere. --Fyren 12:38, 19 Jul 2005 (EST)
- DP and morale I can see as distinct and seperate from conditions, insofar as they are not the result of a spell or skill. On that same basis I would contend that knockdown IS a condition (albeit a very short-lasting one), why do you think otherwise?--Jackel 23:54, 19 Jul 2005 (EST)
- There are long lasting knockdowns but they do not give you a yellow status icon, a yellow "down arrow" in the party view, and cannot be removed by spells that remove all conditions. --Fyren 05:32, 20 Jul 2005 (EST)
- I was considering that after my response. I guess if condition-removing doesn't affect knockdowns, it should not be considered a condition. I don't feel strongly either way...--Jackel 06:12, 20 Jul 2005 (EST)
- There are long lasting knockdowns but they do not give you a yellow status icon, a yellow "down arrow" in the party view, and cannot be removed by spells that remove all conditions. --Fyren 05:32, 20 Jul 2005 (EST)
- DP and morale I can see as distinct and seperate from conditions, insofar as they are not the result of a spell or skill. On that same basis I would contend that knockdown IS a condition (albeit a very short-lasting one), why do you think otherwise?--Jackel 23:54, 19 Jul 2005 (EST)
- Well it makes sense to me that anything that cannot be "removed" is condition removing spells is not a condition. Can spectral Agony be removed? Where would you recommend that the non-conditions be moved to? <LordBiro>/<Talk> 07:13, 20 Jul 2005 (EST)
- A "knockdown" article and then some combination of "morale," "morale boost," and "death penalty" involving redirects. SA is neither a hex nor a condition. --Fyren 07:20, 20 Jul 2005 (EST)
- Well it makes sense to me that anything that cannot be "removed" is condition removing spells is not a condition. Can spectral Agony be removed? Where would you recommend that the non-conditions be moved to? <LordBiro>/<Talk> 07:13, 20 Jul 2005 (EST)
One more call for comments before I do the above, since it's been a while and I forgot to do it. --Fyren 04:29, 2 Aug 2005 (EST)
Incorrect info about "exhaustion"[]
As currently written, this condition can only be self-inflicted. This is incorrect, the air skill "Gale" causes it.
- Gale doesn't cause exhaustion on your target, it causes it on you. But anyway, Glint does use a skill that makes all spells you cast cause exhaustion, which is sort of not self-inflicted, maybe, kinda. --Fyren 13:54, 11 Jul 2005 (EST)
- Ah, thank you! I just recently picked it up and that explains where all my energy has been going!
- shats bullshit. Glint doesnt use Gale, it causes an EVIL monster only hex that causes exhaustion on foes!
- Ah, thank you! I just recently picked it up and that explains where all my energy has been going!
article moved to a category[]
I thought the Conditions category was quite useful; I could browse each condition and have a look to see which was useful/annoying in PvP or whatever. Now I can't do that. I'm not saying that the article should not have been split up into smaller articles: that makes sense. I am unhappy that the page was entirely removed and (badly) redirected to facilitate this change. If no one minds I am going to re-create conditions, linking to external articles where appropriate, but providing relevant information at a glance. <LordBiro>/<Talk> 03:01, 4 Aug 2005 (EST)
- Sounds fine. The text in this category should probably mostly be gone (and in the article). --Fyren 04:00, 4 Aug 2005 (EST)
- I've just finished the (now rather brief) Conditions page. I think this serves its purpose, just gives a very brief summary of what conditions are and what conditions exist. <LordBiro>/<Talk> 04:29, 4 Aug 2005 (EST)
Knockdown, Morale Boost, and DP[]
As per the discussion above, I want to remove these three from the category. At the moment they're in conditions as related articles. I think that's enough. --Fyren 06:14, 4 Aug 2005 (EST)
Kill It[]
I'm not liking how condition lists all the articles and Category:Conditions... lists all the articles. This category/article's had a fair bit of discussion, but as I look through the categories, I think this one needs to go. With the list in the article, the category is basically useless. Some things link here, but they'd probably be better off linking to condition since it's so short. --Fyren 18:26, 14 Sep 2005 (EST)