Talk: Administrators

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Table of info

The sysop pool is quite large now, maybe we could add a table of info, something like so:

Username	Talk page	Wiki-mail	External contact details
Barek talk / wiki-mail / contribs		random Seattle, WA - USA	clicking the timestamp in recent changes
eightyfour-onesevenfive talk / contribs	see userpage for ingame names	varies Germany	whatever needs to be done
Fyren talk / contribs
Gares Redstorm talk / wiki-mail / contribs	AIM: GaresRedstorm MSN: monkey_butt73@hotmail.com YIM: garesredstorm	when you least expect it North Carolina, USA	Recent Changes Voyeurism
Karlos talk / wiki-mail / contribs	In-game characters on user page	9 PM - 3 AM PST Seattle, WA (USA)	Recent Changes Lore, Bestiary, Missions, Formatting
LordBiro talk / wiki-mail / contribs	Jabber ID/Google talk address: baxter@jabber.org	0900 - 2300 GMT (precisely) UK	Summoning Greater Icons
PanSola talk / contribs		unusual California	Prot, Del, and Ban. Everything else can be done by regular users.
Rainith talk / wiki-mail / contribs	GWG Forums: Rainith XBL Gamer Tag: Rainith In-game: See user page for character names	varies Seattle, WA - USA	Not Builds
Skuld talk / wiki-mail / contribs	MSN: skuld+vonnoodle,com	varies WY, UK	RC patrol
Xasxas256 talk / wiki-mail / contribs		varies Melbourne, Australia	Helping users
Adam.skinner talk / contribs
MartinLightbringer(CS) talk / contribs
Tanaric talk / wiki-mail / contribs	AIM: Tanaric MSN/Email: cory@tanatopia.net Jabber: tanaric@gmail.com IRC: irc.enterthegame.com/guildwiki	varies Maryland, USA	Pretending to be the boss
William Blackstaff talk / wiki-mail / contribs	WilliamBlackstaff@gmail.com	varies sporadically. Australia	Sporadic editing and deletion of one-line articles pointless links. Oh and I hang around at OblivioWiki

and colour-code the row according to active/wikibreak etc in red, yellow, green — Skuld 13:03, 11 September 2006 (CDT)

Oh, and anything can be omitted except talk and name (leave wikimail blank if it isn't filled in too) — Skuld 13:04, 11 September 2006 (CDT)

Discussion

Looks great and fun. :) -- (talk) 04:30, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

Because I'm a geek I've made a template with different statuses and colours available. Go me! <LordBiro>/<Talk> 05:12, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

Lol :p — Skuld 09:29, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

That looks beautiful Skuld :D <LordBiro>/<Talk> 12:13, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

Thanks :) What browser? They all display different >< — Skuld 12:23, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

What's this then? Another reason for another template ;) I like it. Good to have a record of admin locations. -Gares 12:45, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

I support this idea, but I disapprove of the template. There seems to be no inherent example to using a template as opposed to a normal table. If we're going to use yet another template, please justify it first. :) —Tanaric 19:49, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

If this was something that new users were supposed to do, I'd agree. As this is something for specifically the sysops to use, I see no problem with using the template. --Rainith 20:23, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

I do like the idea of using a table for this, but I'm indifferent about if we use a template to fill it out. I do feel that the template makes it marginally easier to use the color coding and to keep the coding consistent; but the benefit is very slight - so no major issue either way on its use to me. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 20:36, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

Considering nobody is putting their "external mail" do we need that column? Also William Blackstaff is from Australia, there's not many of us Aussies around but he's one. --Xasxas256 21:06, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

I put it in for him — Skuld 03:34, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

In regards to external email, considering wiki-mail links to an external mail service, I don't see the reason to have the external mail column, unless you want to add an extra email account. -Gares 06:32, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

Mr Biro, any chance you could make a column for "last activity" for absent ppl? — Skuld 03:34, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

I'm not sure if that's what you meant exactly Skuld... If not then I'll try it again :P <LordBiro>/<Talk> 04:11, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

Perfect :) — Skuld 05:30, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

How about a "Language" column? -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 12:54, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

Not to be a spoil-sport but I didn't really mean this to be a joke >< — Skuld 13:00, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

With the exception of the humor in the "Preferred duties" column, I haven't seen anything to suggest it's being viewed as a joke. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 13:10, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

I was about to say the same thing Barek. I've just noticed that PanSola has included a link to his contributions in the "last active" column, and this makes a lot of sense. Should we link to contribs instead of showing the date for each sysop? <LordBiro>/<Talk> 13:13, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

Heh, I was just modifying the template and got an edit conflict with your post when updating the table. Not sure if the "last activity" column is still needed with that. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 13:16, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

Merging the columns ... --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 13:28, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

Stop editing, dammit! I got lots of contact info. I have been contacted via all these channels for GuildWiki assistance. What should I do? —Tanaric 13:16, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

I would just put the methods by which you want to be contacted. I'm not putting down my MSN address or anything. <LordBiro>/<Talk> 13:31, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

Yes, I thought that was implicit. That's why my phone number isn't in here. :P

Also, I sorted alphabetically. The other obvious sorting mechanism would be by date of sysoption. Which is preferable? —Tanaric 13:52, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

Your phone number is about the only thing not there Tanaric :P I think alphabetically is fine! <LordBiro>/<Talk> 13:57, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

I'm all for a different order instead of alphabetical, as the person at the top of lists frequently gets the most messages ;-) But, sorting by sysoption date has hints of elitism to me ... any other suggestions?

Oh ... sysoption? The wiktionary needs an update! --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 13:59, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

Yeah, I was thinking that (with regard to elitism). But equally if you don't want to be top of the list then that's understandable. I just think alphabetically is the fairest way. What we need to do is make ab.er.ant or someone a sysop, that would solve the problem :P - although technically 8 comes before B :P

Now... must resist urge to vandalise wiktionary... <LordBiro>/<Talk> 14:01, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

Now what?

Okay, we went through the fun exercise of making a table that is at least as long as the article itself ... so, now what do we do with it? Do we want it in the article? It seems a bit bulky to me, but the only way I can see to solve that is to purge a column or two (external contact seems a prime candidate for removal - that data can exist on the admin's user page if they want to provide it, and the table already provides a means to contact all of the admins. I'm also not sure if the preferred duties column is all that useful, or even living up to the initial vision for its use, so that one would seem easy to purge. Without those two (which have the most word wrapping) I think it should shrink the table to a more manageable size. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 18:23, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

Now that our current admins have been officially enshrined in a template table we replace them all! I'm sorry I just couldn't resist :P Nah seriously I'd also agree that the preferred duties column as it stands at the moment is not particularly useful. --Xasxas256 18:34, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

I'm safe! --Fyren 19:01, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

Nice try - once an admin, there is no such thing as safe! ;-D --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 19:03, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

You don't even have any duties according to that table, rise up and remove our decadant and oppresive overlords! :P --Xasxas256 19:15, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

Honestly, while fun, I don't see any advantage to this as opposed to our current expository format. Any admin who doesn't feel his current paragraph describes him well enough is welcome to write his own (as I did). I just wrote one general one for everybody else, as I didn't want to inadvertantly insult anybody. :) —Tanaric 11:36, 26 September 2006 (CDT)

Ponderings as of late

I've noticed quite a few events recently and decided not to say anything upon them, but now I'm am quite bemused, so it's time to speak and review on things. My understanding of admins are they are people chosen by the community who voice and speak for the community when affairs inside of the community get beyond the control of it members. Just recently sysop Tanaric has appointed new admins and shuffled admins around in a rather spontaneous fashion without consultation of community, there is no where in policy which mentions that this is the way things should be done, but I think there should be.

Especially when it comes to demote admins without mentioning this subject anywhere in the wiki, I find this action rather unexpected and underhand (perhaps that is the wrong word but...). We are a community after all and I feel the said actions were done without talk, otherwise the admin team are ignoring the very community that they have been put in place to support.

I find that this is a collaboration, this project we are all apart of and I think there needs to be a review in how admins are appointed and demoted, not done in such a hush hush and adhoc way. The ball has started to roll. --Jamie 17:03, 1 February 2007 (CST)

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 :::You don't even have any duties according to that table, rise up and remove our decadant and oppresive overlords! :P --[[User:Xasxas256|Xasxas256]] 19:15, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
 ::::Honestly, while fun, I don't see any advantage to this as opposed to our current expository format. Any admin who doesn't feel his current paragraph describes him well enough is welcome to write his own (as I did). I just wrote one general one for everybody else, as I didn't want to inadvertantly insult anybody. :) &mdash;[[User:Tanaric|Tanaric]] 11:36, 26 September 2006 (CDT)
+== Ponderings as of late ==
+I've noticed quite a few events recently and decided not to say anything upon them, but now I'm am quite bemused, so it's time to speak and review on things.
+My understanding of admins are they are people chosen by the '''community''' who voice and speak for the '''community''' when affairs inside of the '''community''' get beyond the control of it members.
+Just recently sysop Tanaric has appointed new admins and shuffled admins around in a rather spontaneous fashion without consultation of '''community''', there is no where in policy which mentions that this is the way things should be done, but I think there should be.
+Especially when it comes to demote admins without mentioning this subject anywhere in the wiki, I find this action rather unexpected and underhand (perhaps that is the wrong word but...). We are a '''community''' after all and I feel the said actions were done without talk, otherwise the admin team are ignoring the very '''community''' that they have been put in place to support.
+I find that this is a collaboration, this project we are all apart of and I think there needs to be a review in how admins are appointed and demoted, not done in such a hush hush and adhoc way. The ball has started to roll. --[[User:Jamie|Jamie]] [[Image:Jamie.jpg|24px|(Talk Page)]]  17:03, 1 February 2007 (CST)