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==damn copycats, if this wiki. damn==
== First Featured Article ==
 
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<small>&mdash;''The preceding [[GuildWars Wikia:Sign your comments|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:190.232.251.204|190.232.251.204]] ([[User talk:190.232.251.204|talk]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/190.232.251.204|contribs]]) 20:05, February 22, 2011 (UTC).</small><!--Inserted with Template:Unsigned2-->
   
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: May I inform you that GuildWiki existed before wiki.guildwars.com? The community has moved on to guildwiki.org now, and if you check the history of some prophecies pages there or here, you'll find they're older than their GuildWars Wiki counterparts. --[[User:M.mendel|◄mendel►]] 21:40, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
We're going to be testing the waters on our partnership with GWG. What I need from you fine people is some suggestions for what to have as a 'Featured GuildWiki Article' on Guild Wars Guru. Nominate! [[User:Gravewit|Gravewit]] 16:00, 12 February 2006 (CST)
 
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::Agreed. However, they're all wikis and to scream copycat is ridiculous. Especially when many have and may edit some of the same pages on more than one wiki. Just there are differences in details, etc. between the wikis. [[User_talk:Ariyen|Ariyen]] 21:57, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
: [[Damage]]. We got original GuildWiki research done on that, beyond SonOfRah's famous results. It's a pity to see so many ppl still using SonOfRah's results (some of which aren't exactly correct) as the ultimate treatise on Damage in GuildWars. -[[User:PanSola|PanSola]] 16:06, 12 February 2006 (CST)
 
::[[Grawl (Species)]] is also a good article. [[Animal companion]] too. --[[User:Rainith|Rainith]] 16:09, 12 February 2006 (CST)
 
:::[[Damage]] is a good article, but not the one I would suggest to first time readers. [[Animal companion]] is a better example of standart guildwiki articles (but if we go with that, stick a picture in it and update it to include the spider). Some other articles to think about:
 
:::*[[Guild Wars: Factions]] - being changed a lot, but very good information.
 
:::*[[Unique items list]] - well 1 million viewers cant be wrong.
 
:::*One of our [[Mission overviews|mission]] articles. Usually very well done and helpful. --[[User:Xeeron|Xeeron]] 05:55, 13 February 2006 (CST)
 
::::I like [[Damage]] but it's a bit arcane. I'd probably vote for [[Animal companion]] as it contains lots of interesting information that many people aren't aware of, I think. It may need to be protected shortly after it goes gets featured, however. [[User:Shandy|Shandy]] 18:45, 13 February 2006 (CST)
 
::::: [[Scams]] is a good one. --[[User:FireFox|FireFox]] 23:53, 13 February 2006 (CST)
 
: I'm going to be sending off a list of the next few Featured Articles, so keep the suggestions coming. [[User:Gravewit|Gravewit]] 06:04, 17 February 2006 (CST)
 
::[[Unique Items Quick Reference]]? I find it more useful than the Unique items list. -[[User:PanSola|PanSola]] 06:06, 19 February 2006 (CST)
 
:::[[Team_-_Barrage/Pet_(Tomb_Ruins)]] is a quite recent and very well done article in the builds section. --[[User:Xeeron|Xeeron]] 20:00, 21 February 2006 (CST)
 
::::Although I am very happy that you see something I wrote as a "well done" article, I personally would be against adding this sort of farming-intensive builds as featured articles. (Yes, I have come around to your side with regard to whether this build is a farming build or not.) The argument is simply that these sort of builds promote some of the worst practices in the game -- absurdly inflexible teams that spread like kudzu and essentially force out all players not belonging to a strict role. Before the wiki promotes such articles to featured status, it has to ask if it is OK with the mentality that team farming builds promote. {{User:Stabber/Sig}} 10:55, 27 February 2006 (CST)
 
   
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== Attribute vs. Attitude ==
My recommendations (more to come):
 
*[[Storyline]]
 
*[[Thunderhead Keep (Mission)]]
 
*[[The Dragon's Lair (Mission)]]
 
*[[Trainer Locations Table]]
 
*[[Getting started]]
 
*[[Team - Minion Factory]] and [[Team - IWAY]]
 
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== Soliciting Comments ==
 
   
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There is no theme where ''attitude'' would fit better then attribute - and whithout such a theme using such, even small, pieces of mockery appear more like trolling then anythhing. Sorry to say so.
[http://gamewikis.org/blog Discuss here]. [[User:Gravewit|Gravewit]] 01:22, 11 February 2006 (CST)
 
   
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As for '''theme'', if ''fanfiction'' is the new path I suggest focussing the main page on the stories of the game, with only a few entries into the mechanics site of the game. Maybe invite players to write a story around yesterday's (or last weeks) Zaishen Bounty/xxx and off course, once those do get written, a few sentences from the most recent of such stories.
: http://gamewikis.org/blog/2006/02/11/in-which-i-discuss-a-partnership/#respond
 
: The requested URL /blog/2006/02/11/in-which-i-discuss-a-partnership/ was not found on this server.
 
: :( I like the sound of a forum in GWG though :) {{User:Skuld/Sig}} 02:50, 11 February 2006 (CST)
 
:: I fixed the permlinks. Comment. [[User:Gravewit|Gravewit]] 04:18, 12 February 2006 (CST)
 
   
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Meanwhile, random nonsense like this will put off anyone who happens to drfit near this wikia. Unless off course that is the intention. [[User:Amy Awien|Amy Awien]] 18:07, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
== Charcatar(sp) encoding messed up ==
 
   
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:It's fan fiction, are you seriously that blind? Oh my goodness, go to guildwiki or the official , if you want it to be "completely" official and no fan fic. It says fanfic. There is a section on the side of the page asking for more fan fiction stories, etc. Seriously, guildwiki moved. It was discussed and I'm sorry you missed out. [[User_talk:Ariyen|Ariyen]] 19:43, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
' seems to have turned to '''—''' on all pages.. ahh and '''�''' on the diff pages should be left arrow :( {{User:Skuld/Sig}} 02:59, 11 February 2006 (CST)
 
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:Here let me quote for you {{quote|Welcome to GuildWars Wikia ,an ''''unofficial fanfic'''' wiki for ArenaNet's Competitive Online RPG, Guild Wars.}} bolded the parts, in case you missed it.
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:And the site msg, {{quote|May has been officially declared "fandom month" here on GuildWars Wikia. Please post your best GuildWars [http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Special:CreatePage fanfic] or [http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Upload fan art]or [http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Video_gallery video]!}} [[User_talk:Ariyen|Ariyen]] 19:47, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
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:FYI to anyone here who has same issue as Amy... It was given permission by Mendel in Irc to do the Main Page into a fan fiction. If you have a problem with any fan fiction, take it up with Mendel, but do note the quotes. This wiki is a fan fiction wiki now, the Guild Wiki Team moved from here and so all of the actual documentation are relocated and on their pages. There's also the official wiki that handles actual documentation, we don't need to be a third, hence fan fic, turning some of the actual information like Nicholas the Traveler into some fan fiction, while still holding basic facts in a fictional way. I know we appreciate the help, but I don't think we need problems or issues. This community has "shrunk" and is barely surviving on the few that edit here. [[User_talk:Ariyen|Ariyen]] 20:19, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
   
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::You seriously need to work on ''your attitude'', 'blind'? I suggest you lighten up and communicate in a normal way.
: Yeah, I'm not sure what the heck that's all about. I'll have to check it out after work. [[User:Gravewit|Gravewit]] 03:09, 11 February 2006 (CST)
 
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::I have not seen any argument as to why ''attitude'' fits better with a fan-fiction oriented site then ''attribute''.
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::Btw, have you written any guildwars fan-fiction here? Just curious.
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::[[User:Amy Awien|Amy Awien]] 20:34, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
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:::Yes, I have done other pages on here besides the main page. I mentioned one of them above. Btw, you're the one needing to lighten up, not me. :-) I'm here to have fun and do "fictional" work, like updates to things in a fictional way.
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:::Btw, attitude goes with Kung fu, sort of a hint at the attitudes people were having in game on their professions, be it assassin, elementalist, monk, etc... I don't think I need to explain myself further to one whom is sadly, but clearly blind to fan fiction, also one who questions another's work on fan fiction with out clear knowledge of fan fiction. :-) [[User_talk:Ariyen|Ariyen]] 21:17, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
   
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I am undenting so maybe we can return to the issue, the use of ''attribute'' vs. ''attitude''. The use of the word attitude, is misplaced, it normally refers to how one thinks or feels about something. Better alternatives for the word ''attribute'' could be ''quality'', ''feature'', ''proficiency'' or ''skill''. [[User:Amy Awien|Amy Awien]] 11:35, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
== The disappearence of special pages ==
 
   
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: I think what Ariyen may be referring to is the meaning ''the arrangement of the parts of a body or figure : posture'', which does play some role in kung fu However, it would probably be nicer if a simile could be found out of the game world - maybe something referring to the monastery in Factions, or to the Asura. --[[User:M.mendel|◄mendel►]] 13:30, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
So.. I go to check the category and page link pages, but special pages seems to have been wiped: [[Special:Specialpages]]. Erk. {{User:Skuld/Sig}} 03:43, 13 February 2006 (CST)
 
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:: Mhh, posture and attitude can have similar meanings, I am not familiar with Kung Fu thing though, wp mentiones ''stances'', but they have a very specific meaning in GW. Would ''[[:wikipedia:Qi|Chi]]'' or ''Qi'' be something, but that doesn't appear in GW, I think ....[[User:Amy Awien|Amy Awien]] 14:42, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
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:::Seems like there's no better word than Attitude. I've tried thinking up other "better" words that'd be fan fiction, wouldn't fit with any other guild wars wiki, but would fit to this wiki, fan fiction, and guild wars. I know faction is loosely based off the Asian cultures, that's where Kung Fu came from. Attitude to me fit the everyday people in the game and of how most seem to act. Why you'd have some complaining about not getting to play with others. Some complaining things are over powered, etc. Plus that word I considered for the character attitudes like Cynn and her always wanting to burn things, The emotes used, and more that happen in the world of Guild Wars. After all, Attribute is used on GuildWiki and using that would be going back the old way. I don't think we'd want to be the same as any other wiki and be different. Guild Wiki moved from here, this is now Guild Wars Wikia and I think it's cool to have a bit of uniqueness. [[User_talk:Ariyen|Ariyen]] 17:04, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
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Due to the high rate of vandalism on the main page I think we should make it semi-protected. --[[Image:Kirbman sig.png]] [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 23:45, June 23, 2011 (UTC)
I tried to upload a file (a correct file name version of Enfeebling Blood) and I got the following 'internal error': Could not copy file "/var/tmp/phpKEmZWj" to "/home/guildwiki/public_html/images/0/0c/Enfeebling_Blood.png".
 
   
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:According to Wikia, they'd prefer that Main Pages not be protected. Though I agree with you, I don't much know of what very few others would think. Most editors have left to go to guildwiki and very few (gwkuku, Amy, Randomtime, and I) remain. I may have forgotten a few more, but that's all I know. Tried to run for a sysop position to help fight against vandalism, etc. Just with so few editors, it pretty much got one support and well it failed. [[User_talk:Ariyen|Ariyen]] 23:50, June 23, 2011 (UTC)
Any ideas? [[User:Shandy|Shandy]] 23:25, 13 February 2006 (CST)
 
:Still having this problem. [[User:Shandy|Shandy]] 21:00, 15 February 2006 (CST)
 
::Still still having this problem. GUYS?! [[User:Shandy|Shandy]] 22:12, 21 February 2006 (CST)
 
::: Go post on gravewits page or something, how should we lesser mortals know :p {{User:Skuld/Sig}} 23:08, 21 February 2006 (CST)
 
   
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:I don't know how that would work for the 'update' links. On a related note: you added the missions again, but I recall that they are out of sync, so the wrong ones are displayed - I'll check later. Mendel took them out for that reason - I assume we don't have the right combination of permissions/competence to update the routine. [[User:GW-Kuku|GW-Kuku]] 10:28, June 24, 2011 (UTC)
== talk page ==
 
Wasn't there once talk about giving Main Page/editcopy its own talk page? Was that idea shot down? --[[User:Barek|Barek]] 22:53, 14 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
:Bump.--[[User:Xeeron|Xeeron]] 07:08, 19 February 2006 (CST)
 
::Main Page's talk page is be about what goes on with the main page, and editcopy is about illustrtating what ppl want to see going on the main page, so what is editcopy's talk page going to be about? -[[User:PanSola|PanSola]] 07:12, 19 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
:::Discussion of proposed changes? Users can give different examples instead of multiple copies on the article page. [[User:69.124.143.230|69.124.143.230]] 07:30, 19 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
== Fourth Area color (see [[:Main Page/editcopy]] )==
 
It looks like there's some requests for a different color in the fourth square. Personally, I'm not sure why some people have a problem with two reds next to each other. Personally, I'm not opposed to the idea of a fourth color if someone can come up with a decent looking alternative, I just really dislike the look of the yellow square. There's got to be a better option than yellow (I think the two red looks much better than the yellow). Lets discuss rather than starting an editing war back and forth on this. --[[User:Barek|Barek]] 22:53, 14 February 2006 (CST)
 
:I second the request for a color other than yellow. Especially that yellow which looks really washed out and very much like a pale urine color. <blech> --[[User:Rainith|Rainith]] 00:35, 15 February 2006 (CST)
 
::Dont ''request, suggest'' please ;-)
 
::It looks very strange with the small squares having different colors, but the big ones not. I am not set on yellow, just put up whatever color you feel looks better. Oh and I dislike the red most out of all colors on the main page, but I guess that is just differences in taste, hehe. --[[User:Xeeron|Xeeron]] 00:42, 15 February 2006 (CST)
 
:::There are two blue boxes as well, not all the smaller ones are different. To me, there is a method to the current colors. The "What's New" information is one color, the "New user" boxes are a second color (including the how to contribute box), and the general game-play information boxes are a third color. --[[User:161.88.255.140|161.88.255.140]] 00:45, 15 February 2006 (CST)
 
::::First off, that was my suggestion, my suggestion was "not yellow" I don't know how much clearer I can get. :P That said, I tend to agree with 161.88, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it. --[[User:Rainith|Rainith]] 02:33, 15 February 2006 (CST)
 
:::::Hmmm weird bug would not let me post here yesterday, tried several times. Basically I disagree with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", this is not the wiki way, but since I seem to be the only one wanting a different color, lets drop the discussion, not important enough to spend time on it ;-) --[[User:Xeeron|Xeeron]] 19:34, 15 February 2006 (CST)
 
::::::Ack! Needs another color! --[[User:FireFox|FireFox]] 06:05, 16 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
I'm fine with either 3-color or 4-colork, I can see the logic for each case. BUT, let's not have both of the big areas be red. It hurts my eyes. I suggest red for What's New (the color for alert); green for game basics (friendly color), and either the blue or use two different colors for the bottom boxes. -[[User:PanSola|PanSola]] 22:34, 16 February 2006 (CST)
 
:I like it! --[[User:161.88.255.140|161.88.255.140]] 05:09, 17 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
::Updated w/Pan Sola's color changes. Post gripes about the change here. :P --[[User:Rainith|Rainith]] 05:22, 17 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
What's wrong with yellow anyway? Some people seem to freak out if yellow is put as a background on anything. --[[User:FireFox|FireFox]] 04:13, 19 February 2006 (CST)
 
:I personally don't mind it, but since there are so many other ppl complaining I make sure to emphasis that I didn't use it for my edit on the editcopy... Perhaps ppl have problems with a particular shade of yellow? Not really sure. -[[User:PanSola|PanSola]] 06:07, 19 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
== Question ==
 
 
Is there any way to do a good search around the site when you don't know the name of the article??? --[[User:Tizzy|Tizzy]] 00:59, 15 February 2006 (CST)
 
: [[Special:Search]]. What are you looking for? :p {{User:Skuld/Sig}} 01:02, 15 February 2006 (CST)
 
:: Originally came looking for a list of the ascalon quests, then accidentally started looking for you :p --[[User:Tizzy|Tizzy]] 10:19, 15 February 2006 (CST)
 
"GuildWiki search is disabled. You can search via Google in the meantime. Note that their indexes of GuildWiki content may be out of date." Thats the wonderful results of my search =p It sucks, this could have all the information in the world yet it woul dbe impossible to acess to it due to no search engine... --[[User:Tizzy|Tizzy]] 10:20, 15 February 2006 (CST)
 
:::Actually, now that we have this super-sweet server, can we re-enable the mediawiki search engine? [[User:148.177.129.212|148.177.129.212]] 20:58, 15 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
== Foreign language wikis ==
 
 
Could wikis in foreign lanuages be added to this (e.g. a german wiki) or would the german fans have to make an own wiki?
 
: You can take all the info and translate it I think, or do you mean like de.guildwiki.org? pansola did some translations for things in chinese, im not sure though [[User:212.225.32.211|212.225.32.211]] 19:07, 15 February 2006 (CST)
 
:: No I mean like at [http://en.wikipedia.org/ Wikipedia] with links to the article in other languages on the left and an own wiki for each language, not just a translation.
 
::: So in other words something like de.guildwiki.org right? -[[User:PanSola|PanSola]] 05:20, 17 February 2006 (CST)
 
:::: Right.
 
:Concerning foreign language guildwiki you may want to check [http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124236 this thread] at guildwarsguru. --[[User:Eightyfour-onesevenfive|Eightyfour-onesevenfive]] 08:18, 19 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
== User Interface Category ==
 
 
Would contain articals such as [[Hero Window]], [[Weapon Set]], etc...
 
Yes? No? Thoughts? --[[User:FireFox|FireFox]] 06:03, 16 February 2006 (CST)
 
:I think there was talk about that at some point. For the life of me I can't remember where or when it was though. It seems like an ok idea to me tho. --[[User:Rainith|Rainith]] 05:23, 17 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
::It does exist: [[:Category:User_Interface]]. --[[User:Karlos|Karlos]] 07:33, 19 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
== CORPG ==
 
 
Quote from the GW FAQ:
 
 
"Rather than labeling Guild Wars an MMORPG, we prefer to call it a CORPG (*Competitive* Online Role-Playing Game). Guild Wars was designed from the ground up to create the best possible *competitive* role-playing experience."
 
 
The emphasis around the two uses of the word "competitive" added by me. Pay attention to the last sentence. "designed *from the ground up* to create the best possible *competitive* role-playing experience." (Again, emphasis added) --{{:User:FireFox/Sig}} 10:21, 25 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
:Yet, at the same time, it's arguably '''more''' Massively Multiplayer than most MMORPGs, given that there is no hard-and-fast separation of people into different servers (heck, you can freely play with people from North America, Europe, Korea, and now even Taiwan and Japan!). So, while all of the adventuring is instanced, the actual "lobby" zones are more MMO-ish than most MMOs. So, hmm, go figure. i feel like they're mostly using CORPG to try to distance themselves from some of the bad reputation of MMOs. This is just as silly as when Blizzard said that Warcraft 3 was whatever strange genre they first claimed it to be, in my opinion. Plus, "CORPG" is a really inconvenient term since it's way too close to "CRPG", which has been used to refer to computer RPGs in general for probably over a decade now. (Also, me doing Tombs or Nolani Academy or Frost Gate with several other people is not really Competitive, so the name does't fit there.) ... Err, why did this come up? --[[User:130.58|130.58]] 10:33, 25 February 2006 (CST)
 
::It relates to his edit at [[:Main Page/editcopy]] where he changed "cooperative online RPG" to be "Competitive Online RPG". --[[User:Barek|Barek]] 10:47, 25 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
:::Thats funny. While my friends would compare it to WoW and such I would say "Even though it sells as a MMORPG Guild Wars is a CORPG". While you CAN play with anyone else in the world, unlike WoW and such, you are limited to very basic gameplay aspects. That and the fact that this game is basically a PvP game with a linear storyline wrapped around it makes me call it a CORPG more than anything. If it weren't for the fact you could group with other people I would call RPG mode Single Player mode, because thats what it's closer to being when you compare it to other MMORPG's and actual RPG's. I think its funny how ANET tries frantically to do things to help PvE out now that they realize more people are attracted to the no-monthly-cost aspect than they thought. When it comes down to it, I would play any other MMORPG before I would play Guild Wars if all I wanted was the PvE element and I know numerous others who feel the same about that. Anyway, im done ranting. :P | [[User:Chuiu|Chuiu]] 10:54, 25 February 2006 (CST)
 
::::I've found that a lot of time spent in an MMORPG is actually time spent wishing that other people would go away (e.g. in the classic "monster camping" situation that was the standard for many years) rather than time spent being with them. Then again, a lot of time in MMORPGs is spent wondering how the hell they qualify as "roleplaying" games in the first place, too. =) So I guess the only parts of the "MMORPG" term that make sense to me are "multiplayer online game," really.
 
::::Urk, apologies for being so off-topic that I don't even remember what it is. But, sure, if ArenaNet says that the C stands for something and we use the C in our description, the C should stand for what they say it stands for. I agree with that. --[[User:130.58|130.58]] 11:03, 25 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
:::::Hmm, am I the only one strongly *in favor* of the linear storyline? I prefer a good linear storyline over a non-linear mixture of "get me A from B and kill monster C" quests any time of the day. Unlike many other games, guildwars has a storyline that is actually worth following. --[[User:Xeeron|Xeeron]] 00:33, 26 February 2006 (CST)
 
::::::No, I like it, too. Quite a lot, despite the occasional corniness (the occasional corniness does actuall enhance replayability, though: hard to take things seriously on your third or fourth run through the missions, but it's fun to joke about things like the "Temple of Tolerance," viziers being inevitably evil, or Rurik's silly demise). I also think GW is more "massively multiplayer" than most games because I can play against Europeans and Koreans, get to watch the big decisive guild battles as they happen, and occasionally remember who wont he tourney and restored favor a week after it happens. Despite the fact that it's all instanced. You don't run into people in certain situations, true, but all the servers are interconnected and I've never hated someone just because they're "taking my spot". --[[User:130.58|130.58]] 03:38, 28 February 2006 (CST)
 
 
== Placement of [[Guild]]s ==
 
 
For me, this belongs very much under game basics. It is something that every player will be confronted with early on, the article is adressing "newbie problems" like "how to get a cape". Furthermore, I fail to see how a guild is directly related to characters. --[[User:Xeeron|Xeeron]] 07:45, 1 March 2006 (CST)
 
:I guess that I can see both arguments on this one. To me though, game basics are more related to terminology, interface questions, and intro guides. I could argue that both "Guilds" and "Game Mechanics" should belong under other blocks as they are beyond 'how to play' category.
 
:On the other hand, if guild is under game basics, then maybe professions should also be moved to that block? That's a fundamental question that new players will face long before they even consider joining and/or creating a guild. For that matter, nearly everything under "Character Skills & Gear" and "Gameplay Types" hit fundamental questions that could go under "Game Basics". By this method, we only need two blocks; one for game basics and one for what's new (and maybe a third for PvP - which is arguably the only category that requires knowledge beyond 'basics'). --[[User:161.88.255.140|161.88.255.140]] 08:30, 1 March 2006 (CST)
 
::It doesn't really matter to me that much. I really don't see a guild as being a newbie issue; you can do both PvE and PvP without ever joining a guild; although being in a guild certainly makes it easier to progress in both. I agree that the section titled ''Characters – Skills & Gear'' doesn't really include guilds, but that section could easilly be retitled to something like ''Characters – Guilds, Skills & Gear''. I'm not stongly opinioned in it being in either section. Just thought I would throw it out there was why I qualified my original edit with the note in the Summary field. --[[User:Barek|Barek]] 23:31, 1 March 2006 (CST)
 
 
== Search engine case sensitive ==
 
 
Is there any way to totally disable case sensitivity for the (go button) search engine? The case sensitivity has annoyed me to no end many times and looking at the guru forum thread, I dont seem to be the only one. --[[User:Xeeron|Xeeron]] 23:52, 1 March 2006 (CST)
 

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damn copycats, if this wiki. damn

The preceding unsigned comment was added by 190.232.251.204 (talk • contribs) 20:05, February 22, 2011 (UTC).

May I inform you that GuildWiki existed before wiki.guildwars.com? The community has moved on to guildwiki.org now, and if you check the history of some prophecies pages there or here, you'll find they're older than their GuildWars Wiki counterparts. --◄mendel► 21:40, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
Agreed. However, they're all wikis and to scream copycat is ridiculous. Especially when many have and may edit some of the same pages on more than one wiki. Just there are differences in details, etc. between the wikis. Ariyen 21:57, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Attribute vs. Attitude

There is no theme where attitude would fit better then attribute - and whithout such a theme using such, even small, pieces of mockery appear more like trolling then anythhing. Sorry to say so.

As for 'theme, if fanfiction is the new path I suggest focussing the main page on the stories of the game, with only a few entries into the mechanics site of the game. Maybe invite players to write a story around yesterday's (or last weeks) Zaishen Bounty/xxx and off course, once those do get written, a few sentences from the most recent of such stories.

Meanwhile, random nonsense like this will put off anyone who happens to drfit near this wikia. Unless off course that is the intention. Amy Awien 18:07, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

It's fan fiction, are you seriously that blind? Oh my goodness, go to guildwiki or the official , if you want it to be "completely" official and no fan fic. It says fanfic. There is a section on the side of the page asking for more fan fiction stories, etc. Seriously, guildwiki moved. It was discussed and I'm sorry you missed out. Ariyen 19:43, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
Here let me quote for you "Welcome to GuildWars Wikia ,an 'unofficial fanfic' wiki for ArenaNet's Competitive Online RPG, Guild Wars." bolded the parts, in case you missed it.
And the site msg, "May has been officially declared "fandom month" here on GuildWars Wikia. Please post your best GuildWars fanfic or fan artor video!" Ariyen 19:47, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
FYI to anyone here who has same issue as Amy... It was given permission by Mendel in Irc to do the Main Page into a fan fiction. If you have a problem with any fan fiction, take it up with Mendel, but do note the quotes. This wiki is a fan fiction wiki now, the Guild Wiki Team moved from here and so all of the actual documentation are relocated and on their pages. There's also the official wiki that handles actual documentation, we don't need to be a third, hence fan fic, turning some of the actual information like Nicholas the Traveler into some fan fiction, while still holding basic facts in a fictional way. I know we appreciate the help, but I don't think we need problems or issues. This community has "shrunk" and is barely surviving on the few that edit here. Ariyen 20:19, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
You seriously need to work on your attitude, 'blind'? I suggest you lighten up and communicate in a normal way.
I have not seen any argument as to why attitude fits better with a fan-fiction oriented site then attribute.
Btw, have you written any guildwars fan-fiction here? Just curious.
Amy Awien 20:34, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I have done other pages on here besides the main page. I mentioned one of them above. Btw, you're the one needing to lighten up, not me. :-) I'm here to have fun and do "fictional" work, like updates to things in a fictional way.
Btw, attitude goes with Kung fu, sort of a hint at the attitudes people were having in game on their professions, be it assassin, elementalist, monk, etc... I don't think I need to explain myself further to one whom is sadly, but clearly blind to fan fiction, also one who questions another's work on fan fiction with out clear knowledge of fan fiction. :-) Ariyen 21:17, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

I am undenting so maybe we can return to the issue, the use of attribute vs. attitude. The use of the word attitude, is misplaced, it normally refers to how one thinks or feels about something. Better alternatives for the word attribute could be quality, feature, proficiency or skill. Amy Awien 11:35, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think what Ariyen may be referring to is the meaning the arrangement of the parts of a body or figure : posture, which does play some role in kung fu However, it would probably be nicer if a simile could be found out of the game world - maybe something referring to the monastery in Factions, or to the Asura. --◄mendel► 13:30, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
Mhh, posture and attitude can have similar meanings, I am not familiar with Kung Fu thing though, wp mentiones stances, but they have a very specific meaning in GW. Would Chi or Qi be something, but that doesn't appear in GW, I think ....Amy Awien 14:42, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
Seems like there's no better word than Attitude. I've tried thinking up other "better" words that'd be fan fiction, wouldn't fit with any other guild wars wiki, but would fit to this wiki, fan fiction, and guild wars. I know faction is loosely based off the Asian cultures, that's where Kung Fu came from. Attitude to me fit the everyday people in the game and of how most seem to act. Why you'd have some complaining about not getting to play with others. Some complaining things are over powered, etc. Plus that word I considered for the character attitudes like Cynn and her always wanting to burn things, The emotes used, and more that happen in the world of Guild Wars. After all, Attribute is used on GuildWiki and using that would be going back the old way. I don't think we'd want to be the same as any other wiki and be different. Guild Wiki moved from here, this is now Guild Wars Wikia and I think it's cool to have a bit of uniqueness. Ariyen 17:04, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Semi Protect

Due to the high rate of vandalism on the main page I think we should make it semi-protected. --Kirbman sig Kirbman 23:45, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

According to Wikia, they'd prefer that Main Pages not be protected. Though I agree with you, I don't much know of what very few others would think. Most editors have left to go to guildwiki and very few (gwkuku, Amy, Randomtime, and I) remain. I may have forgotten a few more, but that's all I know. Tried to run for a sysop position to help fight against vandalism, etc. Just with so few editors, it pretty much got one support and well it failed. Ariyen 23:50, June 23, 2011 (UTC)
I don't know how that would work for the 'update' links. On a related note: you added the missions again, but I recall that they are out of sync, so the wrong ones are displayed - I'll check later. Mendel took them out for that reason - I assume we don't have the right combination of permissions/competence to update the routine. GW-Kuku 10:28, June 24, 2011 (UTC)