Talk: Mantra of Inscriptions

The skill icon looks like a nose to me =DSystem Of A Guild 08:12, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

Erh, what have you been smoking? It is opvious that it is a mantra with inscriptions in it (no serious). =P I think it is a mantra with a Ring in it.. --SigmA

12:25, 25 March 2007 (CDT)

Damn, you're good System Of A Guild 03:27, 28 April 2007 (CDT)

Actually, if you didn't realize it was a ring which is portrayed in the center, I rather fancy that it looks like a pair of black lips with a shiny halo around them. Now to find the nose... (T/C) 03:33, 28 April 2007 (CDT)

Nvm about the nose... /sigh xD System Of A Guild 03:33, 5 May 2007 (CDT)

Now I can see the nose. Should I be worried? :S 87.74.32.240 16:28, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

Icon

I just realized why there is a ring in the center of this one. It's a ring because it recharges signets, which used to be called signet rings back in the betas, I think.-- (Talk) (Contr.) 21:47, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

That's what signets are! RT | Talk 21:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

They aren't rings anymore. The idea was scrapped quite a while ago.-- (Talk) (Contr.) 21:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I always thought they were. RT | Talk 21:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh wait, I was close. Signets were engravings on rings. Read about it here-- (Talk) (Contr.) 21:56, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Math

I experimented with Inspiration level 6 (35% faster) and the 10 second casting of Blessed Signet. By my observations it reduced its casting from 10 seconds to 7.33 seconds. that seems to be 26.66% less time. I notice that its also about = 1/1.35. Perhaps 'recharge faster' needs to be better explained, along with an equivalent chart that shows that actual reduction in recharge times. Oye 02:16, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

If something recharges 200% faster, then it's like halving the recharge time. So 25...45% means that the skill would actually recharge slower, mathematically talking. I've just tested Archer's Signet with this at 30%, recharge was cut down from 45 to ~32 seconds (30% * 45 = 13,5). Meaning thus that you have to take the percentage this mantra gives you and apply it directly to the recharge time of the signets you're using.

"If something recharges 200% faster, then it's like halving the recharge time." It is not true in case of Mantra of Inscriptions, but 50% faster means halving recharge time. I tested this (with OQBBA8E3Md9gkfeWoCAeAA build):

normal recharge time	with 25% recharge	with 45% recharge
45	33,767	24,903
40	29,866	22,033
30	21,767	15,863
20	14,833	10,96
15	10,897	7,83
5	3,966	2,934

So, Recharge time = (Normal recharge time) - (Normal recharge time)*(X% faster) /for example X% : 37% --> 0.37/

This table shows the relation between recharge time and modify of recharge time.

	25%	27%	28%	30%	32%	33%	35%	37%	38%	40%	42%	43%	45%	47%	48%	50%	52%	53%	55%	57%	58%
5	4	4	4	4	3	3	3	3	3	3	3	3	3	3	3	3	2	2	2	2	2
10	8	7	7	7	7	7	7	6	6	6	6	6	6	5	5	5	5	5	5	4	4
15	11	11	11	11	10	10	10	9	9	9	9	9	8	8	8	8	7	7	7	6	6
20	15	15	14	14	14	13	13	13	12	12	12	11	11	11	10	10	10	9	9	9	8
25	19	18	18	18	17	17	16	16	16	15	15	14	14	13	13	13	12	12	11	11	11
30	23	22	22	21	20	20	20	19	19	18	17	17	17	16	16	15	14	14	14	13	13
35	26	26	25	25	24	23	23	22	22	21	20	20	19	19	18	18	17	16	16	15	15
40	30	29	29	28	27	27	26	25	25	24	23	23	22	21	21	20	19	19	18	17	17
45	34	33	32	32	31	30	29	28	28	27	26	26	25	24	23	23	22	21	20	19	19
50	38	37	36	35	34	34	33	32	31	30	29	29	28	27	26	25	24	24	23	22	21
55	41	40	40	39	37	37	36	35	34	33	32	31	30	29	29	28	26	26	25	24	23
60	45	44	43	42	41	40	39	38	37	36	35	34	33	32	31	30	29	28	27	26	25

Crowley 12:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

It doesnt make signets recharge faster, it reduces recharge time by the listed percentage. --MLegion 15:14, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Aquisition

Looks like someone who has this unlocked listed every skill trainer they knew. Can someone who hasnt unlocked this determine the real first skill trainer? --MLegion 19:37, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Only Michiko has to be verified; the rest is O.k. Rankor is not on the direct route, some people don't have it. Thus ELC is listed. And that's it for exceptions. --- -- (s)talkpage 19:55, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Table from Energy management guide (PvE)

Inspiration Magic	0	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16	17	18	19	20
multiplier	0.33	0.36	0.40	0.43	0.46	0.5	0.54	0.58	0.62	0.67	0.71	0.76	0.82	0.88	0.94	1	1.07	1.14	1.22	N/A	N/A
cost	0.33	0.29	0.26	0.24	0.22	0.2	0.19	0.17	0.16	0.15	0.14	0.14	0.13	0.12	0.12	0.11	0.11	0.10	0.10	N/A	N/A

Unlike other tables, you use these figures to compute the actual output from the signet you use to recover energy with the formula

Mantra of Inscriptions energy return per second = multiplier x signet energy return per second - cost

as in the following exemple: Suppose you are using a Signet of Lost Souls with a Soul Reaping of 8 and also have 8 in inspiration, the net return from Mantra of Inscriptions would be : 0.62 x 0.73 - 0.16 = 0.29 energy per second.

This can't go on the current article as is (because it doesn't have the energy/second for any signets), but is there any way it could be worked in? Toraen (Talk/Contrib) 00:29, 20 October 2008 (UTC)