Confirmation? Pre Searing or Post? PaintballerSig The Paintballer (T/C) 21:27, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

I can confirm, post-searing Regent Valley.--Marcopolo47 sig (T)(C) 21:29, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
Confirmed; same.--Ninjatek 21:51, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

Oh man what does this do? - Chrisworld 21:40, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

Another Tapestry Shard? PaintballerSig The Paintballer (T/C) 21:47, 23 August 2007 (CDT)
Take it into Sorrows Furnace and /sit on it. - Ap Nightfall

Well, nuking all the chickens surrounding the nest doesn't do anything... - Candle Krowman (talkcontribs) 00:14, 25 August 2007 (CDT)

i think this item should be classed as "core" seeing as how its hardened in factions and you get the nesting materials in nightfall.

"Core" usually means something that you can have or access by having any campaign. I think we should find a way to describe the things which require you to have ALL campaigns. (this one, as well as some legendary titles). Foo 21:48, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
Multi-campaign? -- Gordon Ecker 22:11, 26 August 2007 (CDT)

Point of Interest

Interestingly, there is a mention of Moa eggs in the Nightfall Hog Hunt quest, but refers to them being in the Canthan region of Echovald Forest, as these are located in the Prophecies location of Regent Valley, doubtful there's a link (at least not one known at this time). --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 22:00, 23 August 2007 (CDT)


There are screenshots, which may or may not be manufactured/bogus, indicating that something, perhaps a minipet, can be hatched from the Moa egg. See this screenshot for an example.--Ninjatek 22:13, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

The screenshots appear to be form an MMOGNation press release, however, confirmation is needed.--DrivenByHell 23:21, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

Reminder about Speculation

Speculation should be confined to the article's Talk page, not the main article page. This also pertains to items that may or may not be related, including Nesting Material, Herrings, and Volcanic Rocks. I have cleaned up all of those pages, so let's please make an effort to keep the guessing confined to the respective Talk pages.--Ninjatek 13:50, 28 August 2007 (CDT)

Not sure how much of this make sense. But it does strike me that Anet not only be giving us a mini pet of some sort, but maybe even a "Mount". I know mounts are of little practical use (except asethetical) in GW, but seeing how the new 18 dungeons in GW:EN couldn't be "ported" directly, a kind of travel support does increases the fun and be inline with GW's directive of minimising unnecessary time-sinks. Anyway, this is pretty far-fetched. --Lundfoci 18:12, 29 August 2007 [PST]

I have personally seen the little baby moa minipet, the owner refused to say where he got it. RoseOfKali RoseOfKaliSIG 12:12, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

Quest Item

It is unconfirmed that it is a quest item. It does not say quest item in the description and it has no associated quest, what should I change it to?--Gigathrash 23:52, 23 August 2007 (CDT)

oh its real - Chrisworld 00:11, 24 August 2007 (CDT)
I know its real, I have one, I'm just saying that its not a quest item, like it says it is in the article. --Gigathrash 00:15, 24 August 2007 (CDT)
Probably best just leave it as is for now, more information may come to light soon once the GW:EN preview event gets going. No point fussing too much about exactness until more proof one way or other becomes available, for now we can only speculate. --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 00:19, 24 August 2007 (CDT)

The Offical Wiki Says "Quest Item" I trust it. The preceding unsigned comment was added by (contribs) .

The official wiki is updated and maintained by players just like this wiki is. There's no reason to trust it more than this one unless the edit was made by an Anet employee. In this case, it was a player who created that page, and since the in-game popup doesn't say Quest Item, then it's not a Quest Item. —Dr Ishmael Diablo the chicken 09:00, 24 August 2007 (CDT)

I have just been ,out of curosity, searching for these items. They have no indication of being a quest item. Perhaps we should experiment with methods of finding out the purpose? The preceding unsigned comment was added by (contribs) .

Agreed. Things I've tried:
  • Taking the Moa Egg (Hardened / plain) to Nehdukah (from Hog Hunt quest). Included dropping it in front of him. Repeated with the Black Moa Bird pet in party, but it just caused them to scatter as usual.
  • Replacing the now Hardened egg in the original nest; no joy.
  • Hardening a Devourer Egg from presearing in the falls; no joy.
I tried droppiong it in the lava nearby (well burnt/burning cinders) and in the lavan arouynd perdition rock with the volcanic rock. This was before I hardened it. No joy. 12:31, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
  • Typing /use Hardened Moa Egg with Nesting Material. Didn't work. —zeeZ
I suspect there's some hatching place (hot area? other nest?) in Nightfall, but can't think where it would be. o0. Will go try Harpie nests. Good puzzle this =) --BlueNovember 12:15, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
Gack! Guess not. Below edit was added when I was mid-post. Will go try that.
Well, there's always the white moa :p -Kumdori 22:13, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
I was doing primaries and dungeon crawling during the preview so I didnt follow the moa, they can't be tamed atm so maybe they have some kind of purpose with the moa egg quest? Did anyone see if they had a nest or anything around there? 02:18, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
Actually, you could tame them. -Kumdori 14:54, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

Nesting Material

In Resplendent Makuun, near the ranger boss there is a collector that trades 5 Skree Wings for Nesting Material. I suspect that it's another piece of the Moa Egg puzzle... 12:09, 26 August 2007 (CDT)

I just confirmed this the collector is Nuwisha and she is near the monk boss. 5 scree wings. I guess this is to stop players from easily hatching the eggs (assuming they hatch) to get whatever reward is coming to them. Instead of 3 visits to some locations and POOF! 100 mini pets. 12:50, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
i just got myself the hardened egg and nesting material => nothing happened, ill try to "use" the nesting material with falls later, if it doesnt work ill try to put the egg back into the moa nest o_o Madjura 16:56, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
You'll prolly have to 'give' the material and the hardened egg to some White Moa in GWEN... I think so, at least (I wonder... if the egg isn't hardened, can you get a regular moa? or without the material - white one?) fR0z3n.S0u1 04:24, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

Hardened egg

Wonder who got the idea of dropping the egg at the falls? I don't drop my items randomly lol Silver Sunlight SSunlight 13:38, 26 August 2007 (CDT)

You don't drop it, you just click the falls and it changes the egg in your inventory. Foo 14:59, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
Aha :P Silver Sunlight SSunlight 16:23, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
What's interesting is that after you harden your egg (or before I suppose), if you try to click on the Mourning Veil Falls, it says your inventory is already full. Must be a lot of water. --Vortexsam 23:40, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
I also got this error message after i hardened both of my Moa-Eggs. should maybe noted on the article. — Zerpha Elixir Of Valor Zerpha The Improver 16:24, 29 August 2007 (CDT)
When I tried the falls after hardening all 3 of my eggs, no error message appeared. This must have been corrected from before. RoseOfKali RoseOfKaliSIG 12:15, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

Just a guess

You get the egg in Prophecies, harden it in Factions, get the Material in Nightfall and you will be able to hatch it in EotN. This is a pet for someone who has all games. 18:02, 26 August 2007 (CDT)

o0 touché. I agree. Good call. --BlueNovember 18:05, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
Would have to be customized, which is now possible, otherwise mass creations by one person will be possible. Skree wings are a clever way of limiting players from making 4 pit stops and bam uber mini pet numbers! 02:16, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

I was able to get 5 skree wings in just one hour farming harpies. I hope ArenaNet avoid the creation of more than one minipet per character (supposing it's a minipet!). Anyway I agree, this is a surprise for players who owns all 4 campaigns. Fei 03:08, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

I too agree, this looks like a puzzle spread across all four campaigns. Quite a tricky one though.-- 09:41, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
Another thought: We may be looking at parts of 4 different incomplete puzzles (Incomplete as GW:EN is not yet out, and any bits inside that campaign are presently hidden). I am starting to see too many bits for one puzzle to make sense. Why not distinguish peeps who have Prophecies and GW:EN with one quest item, Factions and GW:EN with a 2nd quest item, Elona and GW:EN with a 3rd item, and all 4 campaigns with a 4th item. I've seen mention of 2 additions to both Prophecies and Factions, I await news of a 2nd find to Nightfall... Yamagawa 00:59, 29 August 2007 (CDT)

yeah i guess the final piece of the puzzel will be revealed in GWEN. 19:41, 29 August 2007 (CDT)

Volcanic Rock

Might be related. 05:36, 27 August 2007 (CDT) Confirmed. Got one of these.

Heat eggs up with the volcanic rocks to hatch them..? Pushbiscuit 19:44, 27 August 2007 (CDT) 19:40, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

I heard that if you use a Rare Supply Item you can hatch the Moa Egg...Is this true?


Is it possible that Katharine could be part of this? She is located in Gyala Hatchery, hatching eggs maybe? seemed logical to me HexDaemon 09:04, 27 August 2007 (CDT) Her appearance was first noted after the GW:EN preview weekend (24th-26th August 2007). :D

not a bad idea, I'll take a hardened egg to her tomorrow if I remember. Hell, might as well bring a volcanic rock too -Ezekiel 09:14, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
I tried with a hardend egg and nothing happend didnt have a rock tough.--Diddy Bow 09:23, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
did you have the hatching materials from nightfall with you too?.
Nope just the egg, i will try that when i get the materials though.Tried wiht the materials, egg and volcanic rock and still no diffrence :(--Diddy Bow 09:28, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
I've tryed with the nesting material and the hardened egg but nothing happens. Fei 10:38, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

Ah well, was worth a try ^^; well, might involve something later anyway... HexDaemon 10:40, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

Looks like I have to farm a few Luxon points to get into the Luxon Area. 11:03, 27 August 2007 (CDT)
was there, nothing. had all new items in inventory, even a simple moa egg. Madjura 11:29, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

You guys may also need the herring they added in.

I get the feeling the herring may be a terrible, terrible pun. Jayemji 11:00, 28 August 2007 PST
ummm... maybe it's Red Herring? :) fR0z3n.S0u1 02:32, 31 August 2007 (CDT)


Will come back in EotN. Might be related since she lost her eye to a black moa and is topic in hog hunt. 11:48, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

why did you put this here? why not in Eotn page or somthing besides her losing her eye to black moa i dont see any relevance.

lolz^^ now actually; Zho is part of the Moa Egg riddle :D — Zerpha Elixir Of Valor Zerpha The Improver 10:31, 31 August 2007 (CDT)


What if you made her not busy by vanquishing the area? i have tried with reg moa eggs and nesting mats with the rocks too but dont have time to vanq. 14:42, 27 August 2007 (CDT)ook ooks Ohh this is gonna take some time...

oh yes xD will take MUCH time. problem is: HM - takes really long, last 3 enemies might get your party to 60%. NM - you dont know if you really vanquished....and anyways, if you did it, and nothing happens youre pissed on xD and she doesnt look like shes busy fighting, she looks like being busy standing around and confusing people Madjura 16:35, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

Another "useless" quest item

There's a collector in Twin Serpent Lakes that trades a Herring for 5 bog skale fins. Gruhn the Fisher Pushbiscuit 20:47, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

mabay we need to feed the minipet O_o Pijltje 03:51, 28 August 2007 (CDT)

Branch of Juni Berries? 13:12, 28 August 2007 (CDT)

Ill have to grab some herring later..ho hum....this is getting tricky. It had better be a good wahtever it is.

does wiki have a page where it show all the unknown uses items

We should probaly be looking for ways like the falls to change the egg, not items which have no uses

Well, i got the herrings...not too hard.

i still don't get how food with no uses is going to make a mini moa but oh well

Sounds like one of these is a red herring to me... and I'm not sure it's the fish... ;) 00:51, 29 August 2007 (CDT)

Waiting sucks

Gaile and Lindsey already confirmed we have to wait for the release of GW:EN to find out the mystery Official Wiki

Primeval Sentinel 03:27, 29 August 2007 (CDT)

split "Moa egg" and "hardened moa egg"

shouldn't we make two articles, once for the egg and once for the hardened? the hardened moa egg also istn't only part of the prophecies campaign. to aquire it you actually need factions and (if you're not buying an egg from a player) proph.— Zerpha Elixir Of Valor Zerpha The Improver 16:28, 29 August 2007 (CDT)

I believe that once we will know what all of this is for, lets say a mini moa, we could have the "mini moa quest" page, which will include all of this info, and "moa egg" and "hardened moa egg" etc will redirect to it. Foo 19:26, 29 August 2007 (CDT)
/agree -Ezekiel 19:32, 29 August 2007 (CDT)
Creating two articles is unnecessary work. If we figure out what all this stuff does, maybe then we can have a better idea of what needs to be split or not.--Ninjatek 08:04, 30 August 2007 (CDT)
Hardened Moa Egg should not redirect to Moa Egg. Besides, how hard is it to create an article?--DrivenByHell 13:56, 30 August 2007 (CDT)

Another Idea

My friend has a weird idea that if you use the lava rocks and burn a whole in Drakkar lake, then put down the nesting materials, then the eggs, then the tapestry shard and when they hatch, you feed them herring. Another final idea we both had was in the char homelands you cn maybe do something with it. Oh well. In another few weeks the secrets may be revealed, and the mini pet (if it hatches into one) will be available to all who have all 4 games. For more info pm Death Reaper Bomb or Lord Justin K in game, or email me at

Ugh! *eye roll* Are you even aware of how ridiculous that sounds? Burning holes in lakes and feeding herrings to Moas? If any of these items turn out to do anything, it's going to be really funny when we look back at all the kooky ideas.--Ninjatek 08:04, 30 August 2007 (CDT)

You could've just signed...Anyway, let's just wait and see WTH this is for.EreanorsignPvEreanor 07:58, 30 August 2007 (CDT)


I just beat Zho in the Norn Arena and she gave me a book about this mystery.

Sorry, I don't know how to sign or anything.

you can sign your comment with ~~~~. The book is for the new npc in gyala hatchery as far as i know, then she will craft you an incubator...weird thing^^ 08:26, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

Zho's Journal

8/30/07 I apologize for not being familiar with the process of adding things here properly. I also received a "Zho's Journal" from Zho after defeating her in the Norn Tournament. The icon in my inventory is name "Zho's Journal". It says "Double-click to read" and it is customized to my character. Upon double-clicking it, a book opens up on the screen to a Table of Contents. You can turn the pages by clicking on the edge of the page and dragging the page across (the library rat in me is ecstatic). The information within is quite extensive. Already I've found mention of obtaining the egg, hardening it in the waters of Echovald Forest, learning the proper way to transport an egg, keeping it warm with volcanic rocks, and obtaining a "Egg Chest" from the Turtle Clan leader. The last pages mention berries and herring, among other things. If I weren't so blasted tired right now, I'd transcribe the whole thing for you. As it is, someone will most likely beat me to it by the time I wake up in the morning. So, for you who simply cannot wait, go defeat Zho in the Norn Tournament in Gunner's Hold (I think that was the name?). Again I apologize for not knowing how to add this properly. If I am grievously in error here, please remove this. Khaeti.(editing because I figured out what y'all mean by signing >.< 04:20, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

Omfg..i know what to do..i got Zho's Journal..I WANT MAH BEBEH BLACK MOA71.222.47.119 04:04, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

Okay, I did a small bit more delving (and I really should be sleeping >.<). If you talk to Katharine in Gyala Hatchery Explorable, she offers to craft for you an "Incubator Kit"...for a fee. The required materials are 50 Spiritwood Planks, and 10 Steel Ingots, and the cost is 5,000 gold. Khaeti. 04:30, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

Unsolving the mystery

Not sure if this information has been shared before, but here's what i've found out so far:

With the release of Eye of the North, it is possible to acquire Zho's Journal by defeating her in The Norn Fighting Tournament.

Bringing her Journal to Katharine will allow you to ask her to craft you an Incubator Kit for 5000 gold, 50 Spiritwood Planks and 10 Steel Ingots.

Opening the Incubator Kit reveals six slots inside it for six different items:

This is as far as I've gotten so far. I'll keep you updated as I'm collecting the rest of the items. —[Adul] 06:31, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

Okay, got all items, placed them inside the Incubator Kit into their respective places, but nothing has happaned so far (there's no confirming button on the Incubator window). My next bet is that the Incubator with the items is needed to be taken someplace, possibly to Regent Valley or to Katharine. Those will be my next stops. —[Adul] 06:48, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

It's Confirmed

Pushbiscuit 06:55, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

Wow, that's just insane! Final Assault in Sorrow's Furnace? who could have find that out? :p Well, thanks for posting. —[Adul] 07:04, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

now that the mini moa has been proved and knon it exists maybe wiki should add it to the mini list

or we could keep it to ourselves and sell the mini's at 40k a piece... almost not kidding... Pushbiscuit 10:19, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

I saw one being sold for 3 Armbraces of truth. Now, seriously, wth??? Some people are really desperate... Fabes 11:02, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

Foowithminimoa I'm afking in LA e1 if anyone wanna see it live. Foo 11:05, 31 August 2007 (CDT)


I'm not an expert on wiki editting or ettiquette or I'd rather someone more experienced than I did the legwork and called the shots of where it should go, but the Moa Egg can and has been used in a scam (I know at least 1 person who fell for it) whereby they get traded the egg and told "how to hatch it", even linked to the note about getting hit in sorrows furnace, but of course neglecting to mention the rest of the incubator kit nessecary to make it work. -- 18:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I got scammed by this. The person told me that she got it from an event. She told me it would hatch into a moa when gwen came out. I traded her my mini titan, and she wanted to trade more, but i said no. Than, i looked on wiki, saw what it was, and cursed at the person. She ignored me:) I got a moa from the egg none the less afetr i did everything u need to do. O yeah, this was all before gwen came out.-- 23:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I believe the Moa Egg is mentioned on the Common scams page. Felix Omni Signature 23:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it is. Entrea SumataeEntrea Sumatae [Talk] 23:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

How much do these moa egg and hardened moa egg usually go for

^^ I only have one but if its not really good, then I won't farm for some more. so how much money do they usally go for?

Nothing. Everyone can get one with very little effort, and many people see selling these eggs as a scam anyway because any egg you get after the first is virtually useless. --Progr -- talkpage 11:54, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. Might aswell just bin it Timir222 12:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
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