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I took out the trivia. "That's madness" is a very common term. Besides, in the movie they said "This is madness!"

follow-up misinformation[]

This quest is not required for Temple Of The Damned and Veiled Threat all they need is access to Doomlore Shrine which can be gaine by entering with a party-member that has done this one. I have screenshot to back this up, I may edit and post that later if needed. --Heurist 17:23, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Pyre Fierceshot[]

I finished the quest: Against the Charr, but Pyre Fierceshot is not appearing in Grothmar Wardowns when I enter...from either direction. Anyone have any idea why? Is there some other hidden requirement...or by doing something out of order have I messed this up? Crypt Tick 15:05, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I found a partial answer to my own question. I don't know what caused the problem but it may have something to do with having done this quest in hard mode...and/or having done the full hero handbook before. What I was really after was the quest: Warband of brothers. This quest (dawn of rebellion) is listed as the requirement. I still can't get this quest but I was able to pick up Warband of brothers. I went to the hall of monuments and went to the scrying pool. I picked "I seek guidance"...and then picked "Warband of brothers". Simple as that. However, if anyone knows how/why I couldn't get "the dawn of rebellion" quest I'd still like to know. Crypt Tick 18:26, 29 March 2008 (UTC)